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« Sorry, No... we can't be friendsMyth buster: Like my mother! »

زواج التخجيل

  • By: Qwaider

  • On:Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:34:25 PM
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سمعنا و تكلمنا كثيرا عن زواج المتعة، و الزواج التقليدي، والعرفي والمدني والحشيشي ... و آخر موضة الزواج التخجيلي

corps

"بدنا نفرح فيك يا حبيبي"
"ابوك كبر و نفسه يشوف ولادك و يطّمن ع مستقبلك"
"يا حبيبي هيك ما شاءالله عليك بتشتغل و شغلك منيح مش ناقصك الا بنت الحلال"
"يمه يا حبيبي البنت لقطه و بخاف اتضيع عليك"
"طيب هاديك طلعتها طويله و هبلة و الثانية منخارها طويل و الثالثة ما حبيت ابوها هاي شو مالها؟"
"يا حبيبي لا تضيع مصاريك هيك بكرة وراك اسرة و بيت ومحتاج مصاريف الله يرضى عليك"
"شو بدك اتضلك داير على حل شعرك لا وراك لا بيت ولا مرة ولا مسؤوليه"
"يمه انا خايفة بكرة تروح عليك و ما تلاقيلك وحدة تقبل تاخد واحد صار عمره 30 سنه"

 

و طبعا سلسلة الموشحات لا تنتهي .. و حبل الاعذار قصير.. بالآخر الواحد بدّو ينجبر و يتنيّل على عينه و مهما كانت دفاعاته قويه الا ما تسقط امام الضغط الشديد و المستمر لحد ما يقرر انه يتزوج خجلا لا اكثر (و علشان يرتاح من وجع الراس و الزن)

الغريب انه في مجتمعاتنا الموصوفة بالذكرية، تحلم البنات ان تتمتع بحرية الشباب ، بدون ان تدري ان الشاب ايضا يقع تحت ضغوط مجتمعية تتوقع منه ان ينهي التوجيهي في سن معين و الا كان فاشل و سقيطه. وان ينهي الجامعة في وقت معين والا كان هامل و ما بستاهل يخش جامعات

و طبعا ان يجد وظيفه و الا كان عاطل و كسول و عايش عاله على ابوه.

و ما بلحق الواحد ياخذ نفسه من الاستحقاقات المتتاليه حتى تبدأ طبعا موشحات الزواج

في النهاية... بيخجل الشب ... و بيستحي من اهله ... و بيرضخ للأمر الواقع... خلص شوفولي بنت زي ما بدكم ..

وطبعا الشب يتكفل بكل تكاليف الزواج من شبكه(3000 الى 10000 على الاقل) و مهر (5000 الى 20000 على الاقل) و عرس (>6000) و شهر عسل(>6000) و غيره و غيراته

و تبدأ المأساه بزواج مبني على أسس سخيفه.. و تنتهي بطلاق اسرع.. و مشاكل مالية بسبب الديون... و محاكم على المؤخر... تنتهي بالتسوية او لا تنتهي ابدا ...

 ... لتعود الموشحات من جديد مع اضافة... "بدك الناس تشمت فينا؟" "والله لأجوزك ست ستها" "شو يقولو عنّك مطلق و انته ما صرت 30؟" "انشاالله بدك اتضلك قاعد و هي تروح تتجوز ، لا لازم تتجوز و تحط على عينها"

 

يمه؟... نعم يا حبيبي...انا قررت انتحر... او اهاجر بدي اروح عند اولاد خالي ع دبي

استنه يمه بس الاقيلك عروس

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  • #1
  • Mala2e6
  • Windows Internet Explorer
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  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:01:16 PM
و الله يا قويدر قبل شوي كنت احكي بالموضوغ مع صاحبتي بدها تتجوز عقبالك و لما قعدنا نحسب التكاليف و قلتلها بدك حركة 30 40 الف انصعقت البنت و روحّت من عندي مبلمة
المشكلة حتى لو العرسان قدموا تنازلات و قالوا بلاش هاي و بلاش هاي على الاقل بدهم 20 الف و مين من الشباب اللي بعدة بأول عمرة معة هيك مبلغ الا اذا كان مدعوم ماديا من اهلة؟

الزواج مش مزحة و عيشة عمر و اذا ما كانو التنين متوافقين من كل النواحي تقريبا ما بنفع

عشان هيك بتلاقي اللي بتزوجو هم اللي فوق ال30 او اكبر او المقرشين
  • #2
  • Lubna
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:06:14 PM
i never thought of the subject this way. It makes good sense:D
  • #3
  • Qwaider
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  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:06:43 PM
وليش ما يرمو التقاليد الاجتماعيه المهتريئه في الزباله... و يعملولهم عرس "حركه" 500 دينار و يصرفو الباقي على حالهم؟ واللا المطالبه بحقوق المراه والتمدن والتحضر بتوصل عند هاي و بتقول لأ؟
  • #4
  • Mala2e6
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:10:14 PM
يا قويدر هدا حكي افتراضي ..حتى لو ما عملو عرس اصلا..ما بدك بيت؟ ما بدك غسالة و تلاجة و فرن  و غرفة نوم و صالون على اقل تقدير؟ مش قصة حقوق مراة  القصة انه كل شي صار كتير غالي و اذا انت او هية متعودين على مستوى معين من الحياة بدكم تعيشو قريب منو يعني التنازلات ضرورية بس لاي حد؟
  • #5
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:13:18 PM
انتي ما فهمتي القصة... اذا وحد متجوز بالدفش... ليش بدو يقدم تنازلات؟
و بعدين هاي الاشياء اللي تفضلتي و ذكرتيها، ليش يتكفل فيها لحاله المصخّم؟
والله صحيح 100% والمصيبة في نكد الأهل والعروس، مستحيل ترضي الطرفين.
والله كلامك بينقط عسل فعلا هاد الي عبيصير فينا خليها لربك والله الواحد فقعت مرارته شي غلا وشي تقاليد وشي زواجة ودراسة وتدريس وشغل والله مو عييشه انا كمان في البدايه سافرت زي اخينا ورحت على قطر
تسلم يا الغالي على هالموضوع الحلو
  • #8
  • Roba
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:57:11 PM
Interesting post.
I hate the concept of marriage in its traditional sense.
  • #9
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:06:07 PM
As if traditional is not bad enough. Add to that being Pushed into it... and it would become an unbearable experience!
he he he, 7elweh 7elweh :-)) bala zawaj bala hamm, don't listen to your family no matter what! It's your future at the end, and parents can be satisfied in many different smart allegations, until you find the right moment and the perfect partner ;-) it's either a decent marriage based on strong beliefs or never!
  • #11
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:33:43 PM
it's not me mohammad :)... Although there are some similarities (ZANNNNNN) but ... I didn't leave the country because of that :D
  • #12
  • Spekkie
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:20:00 PM
Nice way to put it, and you have a point there Qwaider. Banatan wa shababan kul wa7ad 3ala dino allah y3eeno.

One thing caught my eye though, there seems to be an unspoken agreement about 'traditional marriage'. what makes a marriage a traditional one? (a Jaha?)and What would you classify as an untraditional marriage? (to elope for instance?)
  • #13
  • lammoush
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:05:39 PM
hahahhahahah ya 7araaaaam
but it didnt change my mind that gurls have more pressure concerning life-death decisions!!
hahahaah bas jd nice post :)
  • #14
  • Danah
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:13:35 PM

LOL .. well I do hear about that all the time .. my aunts drive my cousins into this .. and any guy who passes 30-35 has to go under the "ZANNNN" issue .. However, let me tell you something .. I believe that no guy would get married unless if he wants to.. And I have so evidential living proves around me! .. Seriously .. guys wont get into marriage unless they want it ..
Well .. I agree with  Mala2e6 , its not only about the wedding party .. the life itself , preparing for the house of a mutual living consumes lots and lots of the guy's financials .. and in the last couple of years .. things gone crazy around here prices of almost everything thing are doubling ..
Well .. as I always say .. Allah y3een elshabab  .. because they are under the pressure financially .. but that of course doesn't mean that girls don't have their share of parental pressure .. not necessarily with this subject :)
  • #15
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:45:22 PM
Danah, No guy would get married unless he wants to? Hello!! What have we been saying? Even guys get under pressure. It doesn't work with all (and I just came back from your new blog, very nice)

Lammoush, inti wainek ya bint el 7alal... wallah el blog ishta2 la 3yoonek

Spekkie: What makes a traditional marriage a traditional marriage is the way it's conducted. Groom and Bride had no previous relationship, and were introduced through friends or family. They don't have direct interaction. And the families meet and introduce each other. The bride and groom get acquainted through this family system. And if all goes well, they proceed to the engagement (which is, a documented official marriage, and the groom pays most of the expenses even before anything else happens) They're also forbidden from being alone (just in case they have some weird ideas and decide to consummate the marriage prematurely) and then comes the wedding ceremony ...and they live happily ever after and have 7 kids
  • #16
  • omar
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  • Said
  • On: Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:28:31 PM
HAHAHA,
the bottom line ta7sheeeeesh!

Anyway,
I totally agree and I keep looking how the person leaves Tawjihi, to Jam3a, leaves Jam3a to a Job, stays in Job, to Marriage, from marriage to marriage with kids, and still in Job hah! And from all these to death!

I mean.
where is my time? Don't I deserve time for myself?
Why not the money I earn induldge myself a bit with it?
hehehe. Materialisitc? So be it! *shrug*

omar
  • #17
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:25:09 AM
No, not materialistic at all... If you have worked so hard. Then everyone deserves a little breather to enjoy his time and money there is nothing wog in that
  • #18
  • Danah
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:11:19 AM
well.. can anyone force a guy to get married these days ?! I mean .. if you said a girl I'd say .. may be .. but a guy ..
yes I agree he would keep on hearing his family nagging about the fact that he passed a certain age and it’s the TIME for him to have a family  but if he did not think that it’s the TIME then he wont go for it ..even if he's having second and third thoughts about the wife to be .. well.. I am talking out of my cousins experiences.. most of them did not get married before reaching their mid 30's .. and they all were somehow against the marriage thing until they met the one who changed that for them ..

I simply agree with all of what you said .. but the outcome of the parents , aunts , uncles and all the elderly relatives talk will put the guy in the "guilty for not making my family happy about this subject" state .. yet .. he wont GO for it unless he wants it ..  
  • #19
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:40:36 AM
Danah, don't underestimate the power of a mother's tears. The fact is, men and women can both be manipulated into marrying against their will ...
We often think of the "Grass is always greener" a single man looks at his married friends and thinks .. Oh my god they look so happy. I wish I could be like them. When in fact, they're not happy. They're just putting a show for everyone.
Bottom line, Some are very happy married. Some are very happy single ...
  • #20
  • Amal A
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:39:57 AM
True, men get pressured and manipulated too, but they are still better off than women. When a woman rebels against her family, the stakes are always higher.She's taking more risks.

I have this theory: the reason not enough men challenge traditions (aside from Mother's tears which also affect women) is that as inconvenient some traditions maybe, they still offer privileges for the guy. In a traditional marriage, he's boss. Need I say more?

Ba3dain, if you want to talk about men vs. women in marriage, let's talk about "laws." The inequity becomes clearer. Just my 2 cents.
  • #21
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:02:20 AM
Amal .. You are AWESOME!
I was going to talk about that next.
Apparently everyone sees themselves as victims of poor social laws. I for one dream of the day when men have the same amount of rights as women :) but I'm not the usual XY
  • #22
  • jano
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:35:18 AM
circassians rule in this :) parents dont mention it till your 30 and then if you want they can pay almost everything.. hehe moreover, the maher is 150 JD for all adiga girls, :D aqalokom mohooran aktharokom baraka.. and mafe ta7deed shabkeh o mesh 3aref sho hay el sawaleef.. o ma be7adedo shahar 3asal.. eza el 3aroos wel 3arees can and want to then its ok..
o thats why mafe devorce kteer 3ena,, rarely..
  • #23
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:47:11 AM
Wallah shi jameel! seriously! The focus should be on the greater good for everyone instead of making it a hectic experience and pausing too much pressure on the young couple and the infant marriage
  • #24
  • Jano
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:18:47 PM
sure Qwaider,, howeh i dont know il wa7ad bejawez bento mshan yeksab men waraha? aw mshan ykhaleeha sa3eedeh? o eza khallait joz bentak mabsoot ur daughter will be as well. ba3dain badal il shabkeh ele be 10000 ele ana fakaret enak katabet 1000 lol hade be7otoohom o bewafroohom la wladhom lal jam3at!! aw behajro bara lool
  • #25
  • wedad
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:04:54 PM
hehehehehe, 3njad allah b3in elwa7ad min na2 ahlo, especialy the girls!!
  • #26
  • RANIA ALASHKER
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:02:29 AM
THIS CASE OF BEING PRESSURED IS NOT A NEW THING ..FOR A MALE OR A FEMALE..ITS ALWAYS BEN LIKE THAT ,LIFE IS TESTS EITHER YOU STAND UP FOR WHAT U BELIEVE IN OR U DONT:)IM 31YEARS  ,SINGLE,LIVEING IN THE GULF WITCH IS WORSE......MARRIAGE SEEMS THE ONLY WAY OUT YET I WONT SELL MY SOUL TO THE DEVIL..........AND I SAY BRING IT ON COUSE IT SEEMS THAT I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT YAH I AM FREEEEEEE....
  • #27
  • Qwaider
  • Windows Internet Explorer
  • Said
  • On: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:08:28 AM
اللهم قويي ايمانك يا رانيا
Don't sell your soul to the devil. But if someone good comes around, take my advice, give him a chance :)
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